Hi All,

As the last update list has reached 100 messages, I've started a new one to make it more manageable.

Please enter all your Military a/c updates/additions here and I'll get round to them just as quickly as possible.

Kind regards & stay safe, Brian

Thanks Brian. Be careful, you have created T-38 63-8131, 63-8163 and 63-8182 in double.

That all for me this week end. Cheers !

Good morning Brian,

I just finished and send a list and too late found out that you started a new row of lists.Hope I don't cause too much trouble asking you to look into the old one for a last time because I'm too stupid to copy it and bring it here.

Sorry for that,Erdni

Hi Paul,

The T-38's were with the USAF (first entry) and then transferred to the RoKAF (second entry). on their retirement from RoKAF they went back to the USAF (third entry) and are now active at Langley AFB. the 'delivered date' helps you put your sighting against the correct entry.

Kind regards, Brian

Hello Brian,

on with another list to add whenever you find some time to do so:

XT626 Scout AH.1, AAC, c/n F9632, active, to G-CIBW

XW280 Scout AH.1, AAC, c/n F9735, scrapped

XZ292 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1502

XZ298 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1521

XZ330 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1651, w/o 22.02.2001

ZA802 Gazelle HT.3, RAF, c/n 1792, to G-VOIP

ZA803 Gazelle HT.3, RAF, c/n 1793, to 9Q-CMF

XZ131 Harrier GR.3, RAF, c/n 712190, scrapped

XZ993 Harrier GR.3, RAF, c/n 712216, scrapped ?

XZ996 Harrier GR.3, RAF, c/n 712219, stored Bentwaters?

XZ445 Harrier T.4, RAF, c/n 212031, to Royal Navy and w/o 23.02.1996

XZ498 Sea Harrier FRS.1, Royal Navy, c/n 912022, w/o 16.04.1994

ZB604 Harrier T.4N, Royal Navy, c/n 212036, preserved

VZ345 Sea Fury T.20, RAF, c/n ?, first flight 17.03.1950, toc 31.03.1950 Royal Navy

11 July 1957 back to Hawker. Converted to Target Towing configuration at Squires Gate.

By 13 August 1958 to Hawker with c/r G-9-30 (B Conditions)

13 August 1958 First post-restoration Flight. First flight in new configuration.

By 12 September 1958 sold to West German Ministry of Defence for Target Towing duties.

By 12 September 1958 to Deutsche Luftfahrt Beratungsdienst (D. L. B) with c/r D-FATA. In the absence of a Hawker c/n it was given c/n ES-3616 (ES standing for Ernst Seibert, DLBs main Shareholder).

After 12 September 1958 Markings Applied: D-FATA All-over Red colour scheme.

23 April 1959 to Deutsche Luftfahrt Beratungsdienst (D. L. B) with c/r D-CATA. Used for target towing in Todendorf-Putlos range in Baltic Sea, based at Lubeck.

5 August 1974 withdrawn from use.

17 September 1974 auctioned but no buyer found. Given to EST-61 at Manching.

October 1974 taken on Strength/Charge with the Royal Aircraft Establishment with s/n VZ345. Donated by ESt-61 to A and AEE in recognition of close co-operation on Tornado programme.

15 October 1974 Ferry flight. Manching to Boscombe Down.

October 1974 transferred to A and AEE, RAE Boscombe Down.

10 April 1985 crashed, ground looped on landing, crushing the fin and twisting the fuselage.

24 November 1992 to Royal Navy Historic Flight, R N A S Yeovilton, Yeovilton, Somerset, England as spares source.

24 November 1992 transported by ground Boscombe Down to Yeovilton.

June 1994 transported by ground. Yeovilton to BAE Brough.

June 1994 at BAE Brough as a spares source in the rebuild of Sea Fury VR930.

1997 transported by ground. BAe Brough to Yeovilton for storage.

2008 to The Fighter Collection, Duxford Airport, Duxford, Cambridgeshire/Cambs, England.

WB697 Chipmunk T.10, RAF, c/n C1/0145, to G-BXCT

23+29 F-104G, German AF, c/n 683D-8004, company model 683-10-19, built by Fokker manufactured by North Group (ARGE-Nord); assembled with Lockheed produced parts; coded KG+104 first flight April 6, 1962 at Fokker-Schiphol acceptance date May 14, 1962 in Fighterbomber version by BABwFokker (RNAF-MTA) DA+101 JaboG 31 at Norvenich AB delivery date on May 17, 1962 in Silver-finish colors DR+111 LPR 1 at Erding on March 11, 1963 for upgrading according project "Balance" (system upgrading to higher modification level) coded DR+111 stored on March 18, 1964; to Messerschmitt on December 14, 1964 for modifications DA+250 JaboG 31 on July 12, 1965; LPR 1 camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" in June 1966; JaboG 31 on October 27, 1966 23+29 IRAN at SABCA on June 21, 1968 with 654 flight hours, back to JaboG 31 on January 22, 1969 in June 1974 on loan at Decimomannu AB; back to JaboG 31 on December 8, 1975 withdrawn from use and stored at LwSchleuse 11 on February 2, 1983 with 2.834 flight hours; struck off charge order (AVA) May 29, 1984 to Turkey on July 5, 1984 coded "9-004" (62-8004); 1989 coded "6-004" with 6.AJU at Bandirma AB withdrawn from use on April 21, 1989 at Eskisehir AB (1.Air Supply and Maintenance Center); no further information; scrapped.

24+05 F-104G, German AF, c/n 683D-8140, company model 683-04-10, built by Fokker manufactured by North Group (ARGE-Nord); first flight August 23, 1963 coded KG+240 at Fokker-Schiphol to Fokker-Weserflug in August 1963 for RF-104G photoreconnaissance version modifications according project "Bacchus" (for AG 51) camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196""; back at Fokker on October 11, 1968; acceptance date by BABwFokker (RNAF-MTA) on December 2, 1963 EA+232 AG 51 at Ingolstadt-Manching AB delivery date on March 12, 1964; AG 51 relocated to Bremgarten AB in 1969 24+05 converted to Fighterbomber version F-104G in September 1971 at MBB; JaboG 36 at Hopsten AB on March 17, 1972 EL-70/EL-73 Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) system was installed in the weapon system in the late 70s with tech order "TA-FL1191" JaboG 33 at Buchel AB on July 31, 1975; LVR 1 "F-104 Kommando" at Erding AB on April 3, 1985 1985 new Lizard camouflage scheme "Norm 83"; JaboG 34 on November 12, 1985; WTD 61 at Manching AB on April 3, 1987 withdrawn from use and stored LwSchleuse 11 on July 14, 1987; struck off charge order (AVA) December 8, 1988 with 3.750 flight hours to Turkish Air Force (TuAF serial number 63-8140) as "Verteidigungshilfe" (Defense aid) on December 19, 1988 crashed with 181 Filo at Diyarbakir AB on April 29, 1993, no further information, scrapped.

26+05 F-104G, German AF, c/n 683D-9130, company model 683-10-19, built by SABCA manufactured by West Group (ARGE-West); assembly start May 3, 1964 at SABCA-Gosselies; first flight August 25, 1964 coded with construction number "9130" in Fighterbomber version 2 SABCA factory test flights and 3 military test flights with 5 flight hours; camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" acceptance date September 16, 1964 by BABwSABCA; coded KH+154 on delivery date October 8, 1964 LVR 3 (Luftwaffenversorgungsregiment 3) "F-104 Schleuse" at Manching AB on November 5, 1964 for upgrading and modifications DF+116 JaboG 36 at Hopsten AB delivery date on April 9, 1965; JaboG 31 on March 16, 1966; IRAN at SABCA September 1, 1967 with 389 flight hours 26+05 JaboG 36 on April 30, 1968; IRAN at SABCA June 25, 1971 with 1.001 flight hours, back to JaboG 36 on September 3, 1971 JaboG 31 on December 18, 1974; August 1977 squadron exchange 312 squadron (2nd Staffel) with Italian Air Force 102°Gruppo, based at Rimini AB IRAN at VFW (Vereinigte Flugtechnische Werke, Bremen (ARGE North factory)); to JaboG 33 at Buchel AB on May 6, 1981 EL-70/EL-73 Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) system was installed in the weapon system in the late 70s with tech order "TA-FL1191" JaboG 34 at Memmingen AB on May 22, 1985; LVR 1 "F-104 Kommando" at Erding AB on January 14, 1986 withdrawn from use and stored at LwSchleuse 11 on January 31, 1986; struck off charge order (AVA) September 5, 1986 to Turkish Air Force (Türk Hava Kuvvetleri) on October 30, 1986 with 3.503 flight hours (TuAF serial number 64-9130) coded "9-130" with 9.AJU at Balikesir AB 1987; withdrawn from use May 13, 1991; scrapped at 1.Air Supply and Maintenance Center at Eskisehir AB in August 1995.

26+25 F-104G, German AF, c/n 683D-9177, company model 683-10-19, built by SABCA assembly start at SABCA-Gosselies on December 1, 1964, first flight March 29, 1965 coded with construction number "9177" 4 SABCA factory test flights and 2 military test flights with 5 flight hours; camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" coded KH+176 acceptance date April 27, 1965 by BABwSABCA in Fighterbomber version DF+244 JaboG 36 at Hopsten AB delivery date on June 1, 1965 26+25 IRAN at SABCA on December 21,1967 with 348 flight hours, back to JaboG 36 on June 6, 1968; JG 71 at Wittmund AB on July 16, 1971, JaboG 36 on August 3, 1971, JaboG 31 at Norvenich AB on June 25, 1975 withdrawn from use and stored at LwSchleuse 11 with 2.897 flight hours on December 2, 1981, struck off charge order (AVA) October 2, 1984 BDRT at JaboG 43 Oldenburg official assignment date February 19, 1982, but seen stored at Manching in June 1983 and February 1984 BDRT airframe JaboG 43 Oldenburg arrival January 8, 1985; BDRT airframe at Diepholz AB (LwPiLehrKp 2) in the late 80s, noted there December 16, 1993, scrapped cockpit (3 meter) private owned by Mr. Nietsch, a lawyer at Kürten, near Köln cockpit (1,80 meter) private owned by Mr. Thomas Michel at Neugablonz, near Kaufbeuren AB early 2000 coded "JA+234" November 2005 noted; preserved (stored) at Aufkirch, 20 km E of Kaufbeuren December 2013 noted preserved (stored) at Aufkirch, 20 km E of Kaufbeuren coded "JA+234" June 2017 last noted.

84+03 CH-53G, German Army, c/n V65-001, GIA

84+64 CH-53G, German Army, c/n V65-062, to Luftwaffe

AE.9-018 SF-5B, Spanish AF, c/n 2018, re-serialled CE.9-018

AR.9-070 SRF-5A, Spanish AF, c/n 2070, w/o 30.04.2003

K-3067 NF-5A, Netherlands AF, c/n 3067, to Turkey as 3067

72-1479 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4419, to QF-4E and w/o 07.11.2012

72-1489 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4463, to QF-4E and 02.08.2016

72-21568 UH-1H, US Army, c/n 13267, to Brazil mil as ?

38 MS.760, French AF, c/n 38, to N374AS

224 CM-170, French AF, c/n 224, to N224PS

635 Mirage 2000D, French AF, c/n 438, active

5391 AS.555AN, French AF, c/n 5391, active

0717 W-3A, Czech AF, c/n 370717, active

Kind regards, Alfred

Morning Brian, Thanks for the T38, I didn't notice the "travel" to Korea.

I will continue with French Airforce and their Mirage 2000.

1. 43
2. 51
3. 54
4. 57
5. 338
6. 357
7. 370
8. 372
9. 527
10. 617
11. 627
12. 642
13. 654
14. 662
15. 675
16. 678
17. 683

Thanks a lot ! Paul

Hi Brian,

Just a few when time allows please.

215 Dassault MD-450 Ouragan C/N 215

1654 Sud SE-3130 Alouette II C/N 1654 (F-MJAG)

1518 Aerospatiale SA-315/318 Alouette II (F-MJBB)

Thanks,

Steve

Hi Erdni,

Your last set of a/c under 'B' has been updated (including Belg Gendarmerie a/c entered as G-??).

I look forward to adding lots of Chinese Nationalist airframes when you make a start on the C's !!

Kind regards, Brian

Thank you Brian,

That was quick again, just to change my vocabulary. You're looking forward to new work? That's astounding.Hope you're not upset, that I made you wait for more than 24 hours now. Even worse, that I am only aware of 2 chinese military aircraft in 40 years of spotting and they are both already in your wonderful DB. Shame over me. If you still feel like dealing with requests from me, here is a little list

Abu Dhabi Air Force:

1211 C-130H-30 4983

1212 C-130H-30 4985 (both regs were given to other cns before)

Argentinian Air Force:

H-02 S-76B (I got no info about the cn) :

Belgian Army:

Agusta 109BA (I got no info about the cns)

H-23

H-29

H-39

Belgian Gendarmerie:

G-90(OT-GCA) SA318C Alouette II 1991

Royal Canadian Air Force (Canadian Armed Forces, DB makes a difference!?)

130339 CC-130H 5177

146493 CH-146 Griffon no info

Chilean Air Force

H-50 Bell 412EP no info

H-32 BK-117 no info

960(fake) DC-3 (on display at SCL not 20750 but no other info)

963 C-47A 12937 at Museo Aeronautico y del Espacio

570 Grumman G-64 Albatross 98 at Museo Aeronautico y del Espacio

840 Douglas B-26D Invader 7250 at Museo Aeronautico y del Espacio

Carabineros de Chile

C-55 PA-31-325 Navajo 31-8112068

CC-KKC PA-31-325 Navajo 31-8112070

C-03 Bo105CBS

C-08 Bell 206B-3

C-19 Bo105LS-A3

C-20 BK-117B2

C-58 Cessna 210N

Columbian Air Force:

FAC2252 Embraer 312 Tucano

FAC1001 C-130B 3575

FAC1004 C-130H 4964

FAC1005 C-130H 4965

FAC1010 C-130B 3521

FAC1216 Learjet 60 60-317

Columbian Army:

EJC-1146 AN-32A 2509

EJC-1147 AN-32B 3007

Policia Nacional de Columbia:

PNC-0216 Cessna 208B 208B0274

PNC-0232 PA-31-325 Navajo 31-7612032

PNC-0239 King Air 300 no info

Congo (Brazzaville) Air Force_

TN-AFS IL-76TD 1033415504

Croatian Air Force:

707 AN-32B 3310

727 AN-32B 2810

Czech Air Force:

2312 LET L-410UVP-E14 892312

Czech Police:

OK-BYS Bell 412EP (no info)

Another 2 completly out of order and out of the past I found yesterday in my notes before I forget where to search:

French Air Force:

F5(61-ME) C-160 Transall No.5

F89(61-ZG) C-160 Transall No.89

Thanks in advance, Erdni

Hi,

When you get a chance could you add:

17-5870 Lockheed C-130J-30 Hercules US Air Force

00-01052 Cessna UC-35-B c/n 560-0574 US Army

03-00016 Cessna UC-35-B c/n 560-0649 US Army

Thanks

Hi Alfred,

Your request of 10th May has been updated. Great info (as usual).

Kindest regards, Brian

Hi Paul,

FAF Mirage 2000's added for you.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Steve,

A small list from you this time (you must be keeping Dennis busy, lol).

All done for you sir.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi David,

I've just noticed your post on the old thread (3) which we stopped using a week ago.

I've added the CV-22 and the M.28 (as '043' due to minimum 3-digits) in the DB for you.

Kind regards, Brian

Thanks again Brian,

Next for me will be some Italian Typhoons please.

1. MM7292
2. MM7302
3. MM7304
4. MM7310
5. MM7322
6. MM7323
7. MM55092
8. MM55128

And 2 swiss hornets

1. J-5004
2. J-5238

Hi Erdni,

Your latest request has been completed with the following notes....

960 - the 'fake' DC-3 is C-47B 43-16278 c/n 20744.

840 - B-26D - be very careful. The a/c preserved at the Museo Aeronautico y del Espacio is 848 painted to look like '840'. The 'real' 840 is preserved at Mejillones painted to look like '848' (confirmed by c/n's) - very confusing !!

PNC-0239- Be.300 - I've put it in the DB but cannot find a c/n or previous ID/exact type for it, but I have seen a photo of it at BOG in 2014.

F05 - C-160F - is in the DB as F05 because of the minimum 3-digits.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Greg,

Nice to hear from some of our US members!

Your request of May 15th has been completed.

Kind regards, Brian

Thank you Brian,

It's easy to enjoy the weekend being supported by a hard worker like you. Ain't so easy to ask you if it might be possible that even someone like you let's say mistyped 2 delivery dates? I saw 1212 first in 1987 and many photographers even earlier and since it's not a 737MAX the cn is more a product delivered shortly after construction around 84 not 04

. Same goes for PNC-216 which I saw.in 1996 (before 2002) and I can't find another cn carrying the reg

. To be honest I made a mistake requesting H-29 that already was in the DB as Agusta 109BA with a couple of others never updated from Belgian Army to Belgian Air Force so now this cn is in the DB twice.

We are both overworked but I am also stone cold sober on a sunday morning and awake at the same time as if it was a weekday so here I go again.

Canadian Armed Forces:

1526 Expeditor 3TM CA-128 (Manitoba Military Aviation Museum)

Policia Nacional de Columbia:

PNC-212 BT-67 13110

PNC-0266 Cessna 172SP no info

Columbian Air Force:

FAC1251 CASA 212 A74-2-450

FAC654 Lockheed 37 Ventura BA-400 237-5599 (if reg is fake:YV-138CP)

FAC902 Beech 18 AT-11 no info (Museum at BOG which moved ?)

Satena:

FAC1108 HS-748 1776

Columbian Army

EJC-105 Piper 34 Seneca no info at all (BOG 1996)

Ecuador Air Force:

FAE-601 Hindustan ALH Dhruv DS86

HC-AUK(FAE001) HS-748 1684 (in DB with / so it can't be worked on)

FAE-892 C-130H 4812

FAE-893 L-100-30 4893

FAE-894 C-130B 3501

FAE-895 C-130B 3505

CA-164(HC-AUT) C-47B 33496(16748)

HC-APV (TH-344 fake) Douglas UC-67 Dragon 2717

HC-AVH DC-6B 44691 (in DB with / so it can't be worked on)

FAE-53602 PBY-5A no info (all in museum)

Ecuador Police

PN-116 MD-530FF 0159FF

Egypt Air Force:

All the DHC-5s are with / and can't be worked on

Equatorial Guinea Air Force

3C-5GE AN-32A 1609

Thanks in advance,Erdni.

Hi Paul,

Italian Eurofighters & Swiss Hornets added for you.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Erdni,

Very sorry for the silly typo's on 1212 and PNC-216. They've both been corrected now.

I should have checked if H-29 was already in the DB but forgot and just entered it. If you will delete your sighting and log it on the original listing (which has now been updated) I can then delete the duplicate record.

I am struggling to find the correct RCAF Expeditor. 1526 (has c/n CA-126) & was soc 25.10.54 and I can find no later records for it. c/n CA-128 was reg 1528 and later re-regd 5185. It was on display in Winnepeg around 2006 but I'm not sure when your sighting was dated. I have also found reference to these two....

A-728/CA-128 Mk. 3TM 1528 RCAF TOC 11.3.52 CA-128 5185 RCAF: re-serialled 5185: SOC 1968 to CF-ZQE reg (retired, derelict Pine Falls MAN 84/86) (c/n CA-128 Mk.3TM adopted by Mk.3T N40JT c/n 5989 in 4.93 to allow US certification) note: not the Beech 18 displayed CAF HQ Winnipeg as "RCAF 1528": which is CA-263;

A-913/CA-263 Mk. 3NM 1577 RCAF TOC 2.1.53: SOC 7.12.66
CA-263 accident at RCAF Portage la Prairie, MAN
CAF HQ Winnipeg MAN: gate guard 75/05 (displayed as "RCAF 1577", "RCAF 1528") ("1528" stored in compound Winnipeg Airport 05/15) photo 6.86: Expediter at RCAF HQ Winnipeg: "RCAF Training Command" rep as 1577, 3TM gate guard CFB Winnepeg noted 6.96 rep. as 5185 displ. as "RCAF 1528"; ABN 98 states that CA-263 RCAF 1577 is displayed Winnipeg as RCAF 1528; ABN 98: noted CAF HQ Winnipeg 7.98: 1528 & 1577! Prev. rep as 1528 painted as 1577;
1528 stored in compound Winnipeg AP, 10.05, "1528" in RCAF scheme with wings removed, also Beech 18s CF-AMY & CF-PJD; all 3 still there 31.7.06, 4.15;

From these records, It would appear that CA-128 (the c/n that you report) was regd 1528 and 5185 and is derelict at Pine Fall, MB. It seems that the a/c at Winnipeg is c/n CA-263 1577 painted to look like "1528". I've checked the Museum website and they do not show one present nor am I able to see photo's on google of '1528' or '1526' at the Museum.

I'll let you decide if you think it's really CA-128 or CA-263 that you saw. Just let me know and I'll put it in the DB. In the meantime I'll make a start on the rest of your list.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian next list from me to add whenever you have a Moment or two....

1467 SA.341F, ALAT, c/n 1467, sold to ZU-RNE

91 MS.760, AdlA, c/n 91, still preserved at Orange?

70684 T-33A, AdlA, c/n 580-1333, sold to Singapore as ?

85 Mirage F.1C, AdlA, c/n ?, wfu , stored?

233 Mirage F.1C, AdlA, c/n ? , to F.1CT and w/o 08.04.2010

74-1622 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4852, to QF-4E and w/o 05.02.2014

74-1623 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4853, to QF-4E and w/o 08.08.2007

74-1626 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4856, to QF-4E and w/o 08.07.2016

74-1634 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4866, to QF-4E and w/o 28.04.2009

88-0443 F-16C, USAF, c/n 1C-45, active

88-0525 F-16C, USAF, c/n 1C-127, active

89-2011 F-16C, USAF, c/n 1C-164, active

86-0180 F-15C, USAF, c/n 1033, w/o 26.03.2001

91-0604 F-15E, USAF, c/n 1247, active

23+94 F-104G, German AF, c/n 683D-8113, company model 683-04-10, built by Fokker manufactured by North Group (ARGE-Nord); coded KG+213 first flight on June 18, 1963 to Weserflug (ARGE-Nord) in June 1963 for RF-104G modifications according project "Bacchus" (for AG 51) camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196"; November 11, 1963 it was officially accepted by the German Air Force (BABwFokker) EA+110 AG 51 at Ingolstadt-Manching AB delivery date on November 14, 1963; in 1969 AG 51 relocated to Bremgarten AB 23+94 JaboG 34 at memmingen AB on October 26, 1970; modified as Fighterbomber in 1971 at MBB; JaboG 34 on July 9, 1971; JaboG 31 on December 18, 1975; JaboG 34 on January 30, 1976 EL-70/EL-73 Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) system was installed in the weapon system in the late 70s with tech order "TA-FL1191" 1977-1981 detached at Decimomannu AB several times; JaboG 33 on July 31, 1984; seen with JaboG 34 at Memmingen in October 1985, March 1986 and on July 31, 1986 LwSchleuse 11 for IRAN April 23, 1987; JaboG 34 on May 19, 1987 withdrawn from use at LwSchleuse 11 on July 1, 1987 with 3.489 flight hours, struck off charge order (AVA) January 13, 1986 BDRT-reserve airframe at Fassberg June 20, 1989 with training aid code "C045"; BDRT airframe (GIA) to Hopsten AB on March 3, 1994 with a CH-53 helicopter; seen 1994-2003 departure Hopsten 13, January 2003; arrival Dresden 14, January 2003 Reinhart Losch Dresden-Cossebaude instructional (PMG Dresden GmbH, instructional for sheet metal worker), April 14, 2006 noted September 2011 last noted; November 2012 to Baarlo, Netherlands at BMW garage of Piet Smedts; under restoration June 2014 noted restoration coded as "DA" in overall silver colors in March 2015 at Baarlo, NL first noted; October 2015 last noted March 17, 2016 arrived at Antwerp (Lint), Belgium, bought by AED studios from PS Aero earlier and displayed on the centre of a new roundabout at the AED studio premises it is wearing code "RG 001" and a Belgium flag on its tail the owner is Glen Roggeman (CEO) and the RG 001 stands for Roggeman Glen (RG); recoded "FX 007" in March 2017 first noted; October 2019 last noted.

24+49 F-104G, German AF, c/n 683D-8193, company model 683-04-10, built by Fokker manufactured by North Group (ARGE-Nord); Fokker factory construction number 10643; first flight December 14, 1963 coded KG+293 RF-104G photoreconnaissance version modification according project "Recce" at Avio Diepen; back at Fokker on January 31, 1964 camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196"; acceptance date by BABwFokker (RNAF-MTA) May 13, 1964 BB+243 WaSLw 10 at Jever AB delivery date on June 13, 1964 24+49 JG 71 at Wittmund AB on February 29, 1968; JaboG 34 at Memmingen AB on May 9, 1968 November 1968 modified to Fighterbomber version F-104G by Messerschmitt, back to JaboG 34 EL-70/EL-73 Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) system was installed in the weapon system in the late 70s with tech order "TA-FL1191" operated with flightdate and crash recorder LEADS 200 according tech order "TA-1411" withdrawn from use at LwSchleuse 11 on February 6, 1987 with 3.806 flight hours; struck off charge order (AVA) April 16, 1987 BDRT airframe at Pferdsfeld AB March 25, 1987 by road transport with training aid code "C020"; scrapped after 1993 cockpit section first noted at Neuburg AB June 20, 1996 coded "22+03" cockpit private owned by Josef Voggenreiter, Niederalteich, 2003 first noted; December 2019 last noted.

28+29 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583F-5959, company model 583-10-20, built by Messerschmitt (MTT) manufactured by Lockheed, Messerschmitt (ARGE-Süd) and VFW; (planned assembly at Palmdale with factory code KF+259 was canceled) assembled by Messerschmitt-Manching starting July 3, 1967; code KE+117 assigned for Messerschmitt test flights on March 30, 1967; aircraft coded KE+117 on July 5, 1967 recoded KE+217 on July 24, 1967 due to code conflict; first flight October 12, 1967 coded KE+217 at Messerschmitt camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196"; acceptance date by BABwMTT November 13, 1967 BB+128 WaSLw 10 at Jever AB delivery date on November 29, 1967 28+29 ErpSt 61 at Manching AB on July 12, 1971; WaSLw 10 on March 8, 1972; JaboG 33 on February 17, 1983; JaboG 34 on May 22, 1985 withdrawn from use and stored at LwSchleuse 11 on October 17, 1985; struck off charge order (AVA) January 10, 1986 to Hellenic Air Force on March 4, 1986 coded "TF-5959" with 2.510 flight hours; with 335 Mira coded "TF-959" flown to Agrinion on May 28, 1992 and withdrawn from use; stored May 2007 noted; dump Agrinion AB September 2017 last noted.

38+75 F-4F, German AF, c/n 4793, ex USAF 72-1285, preserved

84+76 CH-53G, German Army, c/n V65-074, to German AF, active

84+82 CH-53G, German Army, c/n V65-080, to German AF, active

84+93 CH-53G, German Army, c/n V65-091, w/o 14.02.2000

XZ217 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 139

XW312 Jet Provost T.5A, RAF, c/n EEP/JP/976, to N312XW

XW332 Jet Provost T.5A, RAF, c/n EEP/JP/996, to N332RC

A-399 Alouette III, Netherlands AF, c/n 1399, to Malta as 9H-ADB

K-3055 NF-5A, Netherlands AF, c/n 3055, to Turkey as 3055

5444 G-91R, FAP, c/n F1-0089, preserved, ex German AF 30+31

1802 G-91T, FAP, c/n F2-0006, stored ?, ex German AF 34+06

1804 G-91T, FAP, c/n F2-0017, scrapped, ex German AF 34+15

Kind regards, Alfred

Still working Brian,

I don't know what to say. Thank you just ain't enough. My Information about 1528 comes from Roy Blewetts Survivors 2012 and 2017 which reports about sightings in 07/2011 and 10/2015 in Winnipeg.2012 says on display,2017 says stored.I saw it in 2006 remembering it more or less as a gate guard on the CFB entrance . Well this is my mistyping here.I see I asked for 1526 but ment 1528. Sorry for that .Doctor, my eyes! No good working too long with computers at my age. Especially not on stone cold sober Sunday mornings. Shame on me again.

1528 cn CA-128 (gate guard 2006) is the one i ask for.

H-29 is deleted

Try to get some rest, even though I might need it more than you.

Otherwise I head some fun with your DB today.

Unbelievably kind regards, Erdni.

Hi Brian

Some updates for Royal Norwegian Air Force and DHC-3 Otter

First of all the 4 already in the database, 0-AB, 0-AC, 0-AC and 0-AE. The fist letter should be with the letter O and not the numeric 0.

The following msn already in the database:
Msn 31, delivered to Royal Norwegian Air Force 08.04.54 and reg as O-AG. Sold to Widerees Flyselskap as LN-LMM 22.06.67.
Msn 395, delivered to Royal Norwegian Air Force 12.12.60 and reg as O-AH. Sold to British Antartic Survey 29.09.67.
Msn 397, delivered to Royal Norwegian Air Force 12.12.60 and reg as O-AI. Sold to Ocean Products A/S 24.08.68.
Msn 423, delivered to Royal Norwegian Air Force 12.12.60 and reg as O-AK. Sold to Thomas Lamb Airways as CF-XIL 18.06.68.
Msn 441, delivered to Royal Norwegian Air Force 02.03.64 and reg as O-AL, Sold to Thomas Lamb Airways as CF-CDL 18.06.68.

The following msn is missing in the database:
msn 21, reg O-AD Delivered 08.04.54 Royal Norwegian Air Force, transferred to United Nations (UN) as 304 30.07.64.
Msn 30, reg O-AF Delivered 08.04.54 Royal Norwegian Air Force. Sold to Varangerfly AS as LN-IKI 31.05.67

Bjoern

Hi Brian

some additions to the Sri Lankan Air Force database:

• reg unknown...Bell 412 EP.........msn 36558.......ex C-FOFH, N437EA
• SUH-4201.......Bell 412..............msn 33096.......ex N31828, CH522, 4R-HTA
• SUH-4202.......Bell 412..............msn 33097.......ex N3195W, CH523
• SUH-4203.......Bell 412..............msn 33100.......ex CH524
• SUH-4204.......Bell 412..............msn 33095.......ex N3202A, CH525, 4R-HTB
• SUH-4205.......Bell 412 EP,........msn 36225.......ex CH527
• SUH-4206.......Bell 412 EP.........msn 36249.......ex CH528

Many thanks

Many thanks Brian, I hope you are not spending your week ends updating our requests.

Same as usual, when you have time

Spanish hornets and typhoons.

1. C.15-26
2. C.15-35
3. C.15-37
4. C.15-41
5. C.16-33
6. C.16-48
7. C.16-49
8. C.16-63

Turkish F-16

1. 89-0024
2. 92-0014
3. 93-0003
4. 93-0691
5. 94-0090
6. 94-0093

and Japanese Chinook

1. JG-2902
2. JG-2959
3. JG-2984

Thanks a lot !

Hi Erdni,

Your list is now completed.

I've put both Expeditors in the DB (1577 c/n CA-263) & 1528 (c/n CA-128) as I'm so confused to know which one it really was. Some sources say it was 1577 painted as '1528' while others say it was really 1528 (which became 5185) - good luck with the 'real one' !

FAC-654 is fake - it's in the DB as YV-183CP.

HC-AUK is really FAC-684 (It's coded '001' so easy to see why people quote is as FAC-001). I've made the change in the DB.

THE-344 is really HC-APV

CA-164 is really FAE-77164

I've sent an email to our webmaster (Gavin) to see if he can change the Egyptian DHC-5's. I think they were put it a long time ago and they never realised using a '/' would cause a problem. When I find one I try to find a previous ID for it and search under that. then I can change the record that way (like I did with HC-AUK), but the DHC-5's are not stored under their original C-xxxx ID's or I'd change them. Hopefully he will get back to me soon and I can let you know.

I still see you have a sighting under H-29 (for Belgian Army). so can't delete the duplicate. If you look under 'my sightings' and enter H-29 all your sighting should come up (eventually) and you just go into the relevant record and 'delete' it. you can then search for H-29 in the normal way in the DB and put your sighting under the one where everybody else has.

Sorry for the hassle.

Kind regards, Brian

Thank you a lot Brian,

I just gave CF-ZQE into Google and first result was a picture taken of it in the Air Britain Photo Library abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1574718, dated 19/06/2017 in a compound at CYWG awaiting restauration (so scrapped is not necessarily correct). Also interesting is the discription of 5 different serial plates on 5 different parts.of this reconstruction. Fuselage door is CA-128. Have a look it's interesting.Especially since I could not find anything this weekend.

H-29 now is deleted. (Let's say I am pretty sure after all my mistakes yet)

Next possible mistake of mine:

I assumed that PNC-0266 was the reregistered C172 PNC-266, that I saw in BOG in 1996 since many planes of the police have been with just putting a zero in front of the number. Assuming that your delivery date and history is right, I was wrong and it was another cn before. If you can figure out if there was a different cn carrying PNC-266 in the 90s would be great.

Definitely the hardest part is asking someone like you the following question:

How come that I still can't find the Dhruv? FAE-601. It's on airliners.net but I suppose it's still not in the DB.

Enough moaning and complaining on the highest level, iet's have some fun and make another list:

French Air Force:

F-RAXH (95): TBM-700 95

F-RAXL (93) . TBM-700 93

F-RAGF (R206) C-160 209

F-RAMT (R48) C-160 F48

5468 AS-555AN no info

5520 AS-555AN no info

1321 SA-330B Puma no info

French Navy: (Four Dassault Falcons are irritatingly under MARINE NATIONALE?!)

12 (or 012 for DB) Atlantique2 12

31 (031) Atlantique 31 (Gate guard FNI)

78 (078) Falcon 50MS 78

77 (077) EMB-121AN Xingu 121077

(Couple of Xingus in DB as AN or AN I with 2 digits?!)

French Army:

136 (F-MABR) TBM-700B

1231 SA-330B Puma no info

2021 Tigre HAP no info

Defence Procurement Agency:

F-ZVMO (377) CASA212-300 A12-01-377

F-ZACS (22) Falcon 20C 22/404

French Customs:

F-ZBGA F406 Caravan II F406-0086

F-ZBEK AS355-F2 5298

Securite Civile:

Conair Turbo Firecats

F-ZBAA 456/027

F-ZBAP 567/026

F-ZBAZ 08/DHC-57

F-ZBCZ 036/DHC-94

F-ZBEH 410/035

F-ZBET 710/028

F-ZBEW 621/025

F-ZBEY 400/017

F-ZBMA 461/021

CL-415

F-ZBME (44) 2057 (already in DB but mistyped as ZBMC which is a DHC-8)

EC145

F-ZBPD 9010

F-ZBPF 9012

F-ZBPH 9015

F-ZBPN 9023

F-ZBPO 9024

F-ZBPQ 9031

F-ZBPY 9050

French Police (Gendarmerie Nationale):

AS350

F-MJCC 1916

F-MJCI 2222

F-MJCY 2221

EC135

F-MJDC 0717

EC145

F-MJBH 9037

F-MJBK 9162

Musee de l'air:

F-BGSO Boeing B-17G 8289

Well, I am glad that there's no other countries with F from where I got any requests. It's late. Again.

Thanks in advance, Erdni

-

Please add: 99-5482 C-130J Bangladesh Air Force ex RAF seen today ott Gatwick possibly on delivery frim Marshalls Cambridge

Thanks

Hi Alfred,

Your request of 17 May has been completed.

Kind regards, Brian

Hej Bjoern,

It looks like some of the DHC-3's were put into the database a long time ago and they probably didn't know that it should be a letter 'O' instead of a zero.

As you probably know, the O-xx is just their call-sign letters and a lot of people mixed them up with their true serial as they used to carry them on the side in nice big letters, just like the C-130's with 'BW-x' in the early days!

I've put their real serial numbers in the DB (together with their call-signs) so you can access them both ways.

Kindest regards, Brian

Hi Dougie,

Good to hear from you again!

The Sri Lankan Bell 412's have been added for you. Whilst doing my research on them it appears they've gone through yet another ID crisis and have now been registered SUH-52x etc. They're all in the DB so I hope this helps.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Paul,

Your request of 18 May has been completed.

Yes I'm spending weekends trying to enter as much of your lists as possible as I know I will be very busy nearly every day in June & July with funerals and not able to spend much time on the DB.

Please note the JGSDF CH-47's are serialled 5xxxx (ie: 52902) the serial is carried just under the cockpit door in much smaller numbers than the code carried on the rear rotor turret. I have put the code in so you can access it from that too.

Kind regards, Brian

HI Erdni,

My bad mistake. I typed in the Dhruv as FAE-602 ...getting very tired !! It's all corrected now.

As for PNC-266 all I can find is something called an Ayres Thrush (look at the following website - there's even a picture of PNC-264!) they did have a PNC-266.

http://blog.covingtonaircraft.com/2018/10/05/a-look-at-the-ayres-thrush-s2r-series/

Maybe it was this ??

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian

Thanks for adding the Bell 412s. Three of these were buzzing my house this morning, flying in circles coming overhead every 4 or 5 minutes.

In Sri Lanka AF just a small point but there's lot of duplication:

• 4 Mi-171s and 1 Mil-Mi 171
• Be.200 and Beech King Air 200
• HS748 and a BAe748
• Convair 440 and CV400
• S51 and Sikorski S51
• An32 and Antonov An32

You get the picture. there's more. Can these be combined/rationalised?

Thanks and stay well

Hi Dougie,

I have tried to clean up several fleet listings by editing the types to be all under the one (which is why if you look at Mil Mi-171 there's no aircraft). I thought once the database was refreshed (not sure how often this is done) it would all seem clearer but it hasn't happened.

I have sent several emails to Gavin, our webmaster, asking for his help (both to the system and his personal email) but with no response.

I've also sent him one regarding some reg's that have been put in with '/' which means nobody can access them, but again no joy, I'm not sure if my mail is dropping into his spam folder and he doesn't check or what.

I think I even put a post under a new thread some time ago on the subject but still haven't had a reply.

Perhaps if you send him an email ([email protected]) it may get through to him (if you do ask him to check his spam !!)

Failing that I'm not really sure what we can do. I think there's been so many people updating the system over the years they all have their own way of entering stuff. I never use the manufacturer as most people know them anyway so I put them in as (eg:) Mi-171 and the type name if it has one. (ie: C-130E Hercules).

I have cleaned up a lot of the duplicate fleet names (ie: Ecuador AF; Ecuador Air Force; Ecuadorean Air Force; Ecuadorian Air Force (I just recently did this one!) and they're fine, but it's trying to clean up the types within the fleet listing is the bit I can't seem to make happen!

Kind regards, Brian

PS: I've just put a separate message on the forum for the attention of Gavin regarding several 'housekeeping' issues with the fleet lists, as discussed.

Thanks Brian for the Japanese Chinook. I agree with Dougie, there are lot of duplication everywhere but I cannot image the time needed to clean it.

I also have a question, are you in charge of warbirds with civil reg? Or I ask Gavin?

Next for me please, it will be:

Greek F-16

1. 005
2. 013
3. 019
4. 028
5. 505
6. 519

Greek F-4

1. 01512
2. 01534

Japanese P-1

1. 5502
2. 5511
3. 5515

Hungarian Gripen

1. 34
2. 35
3. 37
4. 39
5. 40
6. 41
7. 42

and Tawainese C-130

1. 93-1315
2. 97-1318

Hello Brian,

another list to add whenever you have the time:

XX387 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1287, wfu

XX407 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1347, w/o 20.07.1993

XZ213 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 131, GIA

XZ218 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 141, wfu/stored

XZ219 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 144, GIA

XZ643 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 178, wfu/sold

27+72 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583F-5901, company model 583-10-20, built by Messerschmitt, assembled by Lockheed manufactured by Lockheed and Messerschmitt (ARGE-Süd) according lot 1 fuselage assembled at Messerschmitt-Augsburg, wings manufactured at Messerschmitt-Manching ARGE-Süd parts (fuselage, wings and tail) airlifted to USA January 19, 1965 with a Canadair CL-44D airfreighter of "Flying Tiger Line" at Lockheed-Burbank assembled and test flights at Palmdale coded KF+201 in 1965 acceptance date May 14, 1965 by BABwLockheed; airlifted to Ypenburg, Netherlands on May 31, 1965 for reassembly by Avio Diepen camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" DA+362 JaboG 31 at Norvenich AB delivery date on July 20, 1965 27+72 JaboG 33 at Buchel AB on April 26, 1983; stored at LwSchleuse 11 on September 7, 1983; new camouflage scheme "Norm 83" on July 13, 1984 LwSchleuse 11 "F-104 Kommando" on April 17, 1985; JaboG 34 on October 17, 1985; TechnGrp 11 "F-104 Kommando" LVR 1 on August 27, 1987 WTD 61 at Manching AB on October 7, 1988; withdrawn from use with 3.193 flight hours; struck off charge order (AVA) October 17, 1990 to Greece October 30, 1990 to 116.Pterix at Araxos AB; "TF-901" Hellenic Aerospace Industry (HAI) on April 14, 1992 withdrawn from use May 31, 1992 at KEA Hellinikon; airfield decoy at Tanagra AB April 1996 first noted; stored Tanagra AB 2000 dump Tanagra AB in bare metal, serial "5901" written on fuselage September 18, 2005 noted; dump September 2010 noted; dump November 2017 last noted.

27+84 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583F-5913, company model 583-10-20, built by Lockheed manufactured by Lockheed and Messerschmitt (ARGE-Süd); assembly according contract lot 3 fuselage assembled at Messerschmitt-Augsburg, wings manufactured at Messerschmitt-Manching ARGE-Süd parts (fuselage, wings and tail) airlifted to USA May 31, 1965 with a Canadair CL-44D of "Flying Tiger Line" at Lockheed-Burbank assembled and test flights coded KF+213 at Palmdale in 1965; airlifted to Avio Diepen at Ypenburg, Netherlands on October 27, 1965 for reassambly camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196"; accepted on December 29, 1966 by BABwFokker EA+373 AG 51 at Ingolstadt-Manching AB delivery date on January 7, 1966; 1969 deployment to Bremgarten AB (EDSG) 27+84 JaboG 34 at Memmingen AB on September 21, 1970; JaboG 31 at Norvenich AB on December 9, 1970; JaboG 33 at Buchel AB on June 13, 1973; JaboG 31 on July 26, 1973 JaboG 34 at Memmingen AB on April 25, 1983; JaboG 33 at Buchel AB on May 5, 1983; ErpSt 61 at Manching AB on September 28, 1984 withdrawn from use with 3.341 flight hours at LwSchleuse 11 on July 7, 1986; struck off charge order (AVA) September 5, 1986 coded "4-913" on August 19, 1986 to Turkish Air Force with 4.AJU at Murted AB; 1987 seen operational with 4.AJU coded "4-913" 1989 last noted; withdrawn from use at 1. Air Supply and Maintenance Center at Eskisehir AB on June 8, 1992; scrapped.

28+31 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583F-5961, company model 583-10-20, built by Messerschmitt (MTT) manufactured by Group USA (ARGE-USA) and Messerschmitt (ARGE-Süd) and VFW; assembled by Messerschmitt-Manching starting July 19, 1967 (planned assembly at Palmdale with factory code KF+261 was canceled) first flight November 20, 1967 coded KE+219 (planned code KE+119 was not used); camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" acceptance date January 17, 1968 by BABwMTT; planned code JD+37x was not used 28+31 JG 74 at Neuburg AB delivery date on January 22, 1968; JaboG 31 at Norvenich AB on November 25, 1974 special marks JaboG 31 "Boelcke" for last F-104 flight and 25th anniversary of JaboG 31 as "Blue Boelcke" on April 30, 1983 TechnGrp 11 on May 2, 1983 for new "Norm 83" Lizard camouflage scheme; JaboG 34 at Memmingen AB on March 14, 1984; on loan at LwSchleuse 11 on May 30, 1985; JaboG 34 on January 29, 1986 LVR 1 "F-104 Kommando" on August 20, 1987; WTD 61 at Manching AB on February 5, 1988; struck off charge order (AVA) November 8, 1989 to Hellenic Air Force November 23, 1989 coded "TF-5961" with 2.868 flight hours; withdrawn from use on May 31, 1992 airfield decoy at Tanagra AB in July 1995; dump Tanagra AB in bare metal and serial painted on fuselage, September 18, 2005 last noted restored at Hellenic Air Force Open Days, Tanagra AB November 2010 first noted; November 2018 last noted.

72+87 UH-1D, German Army, c/n 8407, w/o 17.10.1990

68-0408 F-4E, USAF, c/n 3513, sold to Greece as 68-0408

68-0411 F-4E, USAF, c/n 3518, w/o 24.10.1995

68-0481 F-4E, USAF, c/n 3651, sold to Greece as 68-0481

68-0496 F-4E, USAF, c/n 3678, sold to Greece as 68-0496

68-0528 F-4E, USAF, c/n 3726, sold to Turkey as 68-0528

72-1407 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4398, still preserved at Keflavik ?

74-1061 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4848, to QF-4E and w/o ?

74-0142 F-15B, USAF, c/n 90, still in use as GIA?

75-0080 F-15B, USAF, c/n 114, GIA

75-0083 F-15B, USAF, c/n 135, scrapped

67-17355 UH-1H, US Army, c/n 9553, preserved?

74-22327 UH-1H, US Army, c/n 13651, sold as N81217

96 MS.760, AdlA, c/n 96, w/o 29.05.1982

217 Mirage F.1C, AdlA, c/n ?, w/o 31.03.1993

247 Mirage F.1C, Adla, c/n ?, to F.1CT, wfu

9 Mirage 2000C, AdlA, c/n 9, GIA at Orange

18 Mirage 2000C, Adla, c/n 33, GIA at Chateaudun ?

505 Mirage 2000B, AdlA, c/n ?, stored Chateaudun

J-234 F-16A, Netherlands AF, c/n 6D-23, GIA

66-0303 F-4E, Turkish AF, c/n 2479, ex USAF, scrapped

68-0350 F-4E, Turkish AF, c/n 3406, ex USAF, stored ?

68-0351 F-4E, Turkish AF, c/n 3408, ex USAF, stored ?

68-0504 F-4E, Turkish AF, c/n 3690, still active ?

Kind regards, Alfred

Hi Brian,

Hope all is well, I have a couple of RAAF aircraft to be added to the database when you have chance please..

A32-988 Beech King Air 350

A32-003 Beech King Air 350

Many thanks, Andy

Hi Erdni,

France has been added for you. A lot of civil reg's but I've put them in anyway as I know Dennis is still busy on the civil side.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Garry,

The Bangladesh AF C-130J has been updated for you.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Paul,

Your request of 20 May has been completed.

You can send me the wardbird request. Even though they may have civil reg's I'm sure most of them were ex military.

Keep safe, Brian

Hi Brian,

Could you add

97-00102 Cessna UC-35A1 560-0456 US Army

Thanks, Greg

Hi Brian Please can you add C-37B 04-01778 US Army to the DB ,when time permits. Thanks David.

Hi Erdni,

Gerhard has advised that C-141C 65-0248 has a duplicate entry and you and he have put your sighting against it. Can I kindly ask you to delete your log against the second entry (the one with just you & him) and then once they've been removed the system will allow me to delete it.

Thanks for your help!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Alfred,

Your request of 21 May has been completed.

Have a great weekend!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Andy,

RAAF Be 350i's added for you.

stay safe!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Greg,

Good to hear from you again. UC-35A added for you sir.

Stay safe!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi David,

Your MC-130J (from the previous thread) and the C-37B have both been added.

Just to advise, when the thread gets to around 100 posts it becomes a little too unwieldy so I start another one (as does Dennis dealing with the civil requests).

They are both numbered, so just look for the highest number and post your requests there. The requests are handled in date order, as and when I can, unless someone posts a huge list and then it gets actioned when I can.

Hope this helps explain the system we have going.

Stay safe!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian Thanks very much for your kind attention. It seems that you both have your work cut out attending to all these requests etc,however it is greatly appreciated, so thanks very much. Best regards,stay safe,David.

Morning Brian,

Thanks for the Warbirds, in that case I will need:

1. NX620PF: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17PF
2. OY-LSD: Aero L-29 Delfin
3. N1941P: Curtiss P-40E Kittyhawk
4. NL51HY: North American P-51D Mustang
5. N1038A: North American SNJ-5 Texan
6. N713JT: Chance Vought F4U-4 Corsair
7. N593RH: De Havilland DH-115 Vampire
8. N400FS: North American FJ-4B Fury (Did a belly landing on 14/11/2019) https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/230689
9. N518TA: McDonnell Douglas TA-4J Skyhawk
10. N217SH: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17 Fresco
11. N46RL: Goodyear FG-1D Corsair
12. HB-RDF: Dassault Mirage 3
13. F-AZXJ: Hawker Sea Fury FB.11

Have a nice WE.

Hi Brian, another list when you have a moment....

WP962 Chipmunk T.10, RAF, c/n C1/0809, preserved

XM970 Lightning T.4, RAF, c/n B1/95055, scrapped

XM973 Lightning T.4, RAF, c/n B1/95073, scrapped

XR442 Sea Heron C.1, Royal Navy, c/n 14102, fromerly G-AORH, sold to US civil

XV648 Sea King HAS.2A, Royal Navy, c/n WA636, stored

XX416 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1370, stored

XX432 Gazelle AH.1, AAC, c/n 1385, sold as G-CDNO

XZ211 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 127, preserved

XZ678 Lynx AH.1, AAC, c/n 244, stored

XZ699 Lynx HAS.2, Royal Navy, c/n 157, preserved

27+31 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583D-5733, company model 583-10-20, US serial number 61-3062, built by Lockheed manufactured by Group USA (ARGE-USA); MAP aircraft for Germany; first flight 1963 coded with US serial number "61-3062" delivery date April 22, 1963 by BABwLockheed coded KE+233; airlifted to Manching on June 24, 1963 DA+062 code for test flights at Messerschmitt-Manching; camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" DA+366 JaboG 31 delivery date on February 4, 1964 at Norvenich AB midair collision on May 13, 1965 during night radar low level with a NORATLAS transporter GB+239 of LTG 62, emergency landing at Hopsten AB, the NORATLAS landed safe as well; repaired by Messerschmitt 1965 and back to JaboG 31 on April 29, 1966 27+31 withdrawn from use and stored at LwSchleuse 11 on February 16, 1983; struck off charge order (AVA) March 4, 1983 to Greece (Hellenic Air Force) on July 26, 1983 coded "TF-733" with 2.716 flight hours last flight and withdrawn from use on March 2, 1993 at 132 Combat Group (HAF Detachment Agrinion AB); stored Agrinion AB April 1996 first noted stored Agrinion AB September 2005 noted; November 2017 last noted.

27+35 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583D-5737, company model 583-10-20, US serial number 61-3066, built by Lockheed manufactured by Group USA (ARGE-USA); test flight release May 14, 1963; first flight 1963 coded with US serial number "61-3066" MAP to Germany coded KE+237; acceptance date May 29, 1963 by BABwLockheed airlifted to Messerschmitt-Manching, Germany on June 18, 1963; camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" coded DA+066 for Messerschmitt test flight on August 14, 1964; acceptance date November 19, 1964 by BABwMTT EB+372 on November 11, 1964, recoded EB+371 AG 52 at Leck AB delivery date on February 23, 1965 27+35 JG 71 "R" at wittmund AB on November 15, 1971; JaboG 31 "B" at Norvenich AB on January 7, 1974 withdrawn from use at LwSchleuse 11 on February 2, 1983; struck off charge order (AVA) January 7, 1983 with 2.269 flight hours to Turkey (TuAF serial number 63-5737) on April 13, 1983; crashed coded "6-737" of 6.AJU on January 10, 1985; wreck noted 1987; scrapped.

27+37 TF-104G, German AF, c/n 583D-5739, company model 583-10-20, US serial number 61-3068, built by Lockheed manufactured by Group USA (ARGE-USA); test flight release May 14, 1963; first flight 1963 coded with US serial number "61-3068" MAP to Germany coded KE+239; acceptance date June 25, 1963 by BABwLockheed airlifted to Germany July 15, 1963 with a Canadair CL-44D airfreighter of the "Flying Tiger Line" coded DA+068 for Messerschmitt test flight on September 26, 1963; camouflage scheme "Norm 62" according tech order "TA-196" TA+162 MFG 1 at Schleswig-Jagel AB delivery date on February 26, 1964 at Schleswig-Jagel AB heavy damaged 1964 during maintenance work after unintentional landing gear cycling, repaired by Messerschmitt and back to MFG 1 on January 4, 1966 27+37 Navy camouflage scheme "Norm 76" according tech order "TA-196-3" in 1970; WaSLw 10 at Jever AB on November 10, 1972 JaboG 34 on January 9, 1980; withdrawn from use and stored at LwSchleuse 11 on April 22, 1981; struck off charge order (AVA) July 13, 1983 flown to Grosseto August 23, 1984 with 2.019 flight hours; acceptance AMI October 1, 1987 with AMI serial number MM54555 TF-104G coded 4-45 of 20°Gruppo 1991; Alenia April 12, 1995 until July 20, 1998 for TF-104G-M modification delivery date with "M" modification July 20, 1998; 4-45 with grey camouflage in 2001; withdrawn from use August 13, 2003 CFE compound Grazzanise AB in September 2003; June 2010 last noted.

34+60 G-91T, German AF, c/n D620, to Portugal for spares

71+13 UH-1D, German AF, c/n 8173, w/o 06.09.2001

71+83 UH-1D, German Army, c/n 8303, preserved

68-0526 F-4E, USAF, c/n 3724, to South Korea as 80-526

69-0365 RF-4C, USAF, c/n 3824, scrapped

69-7223 F-4G, USAF, c/n 3886, w/o 01.06.1984, crashed at Riepe/Germany after mid-air col. with an F-4E

69-7256 F-4G, USAF, c/n 3935, to QF-4G and w/o 10.06.1998

69-7295 F-4G, USAF, c/n 3975, to QF-4G and w/o 24.08.1999

69-7579 F-4G, USAF, c/n 4036, to QF-4G and w/o 18.08.1999

72-1476 F-4E, USAF, c/n 4408, w/o 03.03.1981, crashed in Germany, poss at Spangdahlem

81-0694 F-16A, USAF, c/n 61-375, stored AMARG

81-0722 F-16A, USAF, c/n 61-403, to Italy as MM7240, still in Italy?

88-0526 F-16C, USAF, c/n 1C-128, active

89-2039 F-16C, USAF, c/n 1C-192, active

71-20063 UH-1V, US Army, c/n 12887, to Pakistan ?

73-21744 UH-1H, US Army, c/n 13432, sold as N218SD

J-265 F-16B, Netherlands AF, c/n 6E-7, stored

J-268 F-16B, Netherlands AF, c/n 6E-10, GIA Volkel

J-630 F-16A, Netherlands AF, c/n 6D-62, active

J-644 F-16A, Netherlands AF, c/n 6D-76, active

J-881 F-16A, Netherlands AF, c/n 6D-98, wfu ?

K-3027 NF-5A, Netherlands AF, c/n 3027, to Turkey as 3027

Stay safe // Kind regards Alfred

Thank you Brian,

for not only being fast as usual but also widening your area of responsibility and putting in civil registration requests. It's just that I work with my never much loved "Military Aircraft Serial Review 2013 on Dutch Wings" and they put some countries Police Forces fleets in.

Following your orders (THROW OUT YOUR OLD LOGBOOKS!) I am trying to get rid of this book for once and for all, so I give you everything that they consider military with 100% understanding if you would just not work on them. In this case I could do a research in this forum, copy the forgotten list and send them to Dennis when their time has come.

You are lucky: German Police is not considered to be military.

But not so lucky,here is two frogs that fell through the net:

F-ZBDG SA-316B Alouette 1749 Securite Civile

F-ZBDN. SA-316B Alouette 1854 Securite Civile

With F-ZVMO from the last list I am pretty sure you mistyped the date of change to

F-ZAEA (1988) because photos show F-ZVMO in 2007 and 2009 and that's when I saw it

Also found one Belgium Air Force oldtimer std in Melsbroek AB:

OT-CWA (K-1) ? seems they changed the planes in 2017, so seen on airliners.net different cns 2013 and 2018??? If so i'd like them both to be added respectively corrected since one is already in the DB.

GABONESE AIR FORCE:

TR-KKB L-100-20 4710

GERMAN AIR FORCE

50+10 C-160 D10

50+60 C-160 D82 new reg (maybe fake) L+LX std or used as ground trainer in ETNW

44+61 Tornado ?

45+57 Tornado ?

plus Collection at Wunstorf

GR+248 Nord 2501F-2 Noratlas 66

DB+RD JU-52 J6693

70+68 UH-1D Iroquois 8126 (Army?)

90+44 FWP-149D 058

93+03 Mil-Mi-8T 10511

GERMAN NAVY (all from the museum at NDZ Aronauticum)

54+08 Percival P.66 Pembroke C.54 105

61+06 Breguet 1150 Atlantic 12

UA+113 Fairey Gannet AS4 F9395

RB+363 Sea Hawk Mk 101 6707

94+01 Mil-Mi-8S 105100

94+14 Mil-Mi-8TB 10575

22+98 F-104G 683-7181

45+30 Tornado-IDS 577/GS178/4230

VB+134 Sea Hawk Mk 100 6684

366 SU-22M4 25512 (ex EAST GERMAN AIR FORCE)

GERMAN ARMY:

86+27 Bo-105P1

87+59 Bo-105P1

87+98 Bo-105P1

70+72 UH-1D Iroquois

71+32 UH-1D Iroquois

78+14 NH-90-TTH

Thanks in advance, a very tired Erdni

Hi Brian,

Been going through some old 1970’s logs. (Nothing better to do!)

Please could you add:

WK968 Gloster Meteor F8 s/n 8053M RAF. Built 1953. Became gate guardian at Odiham 1970. Scrapped 01/1991

WV781 Bristol Sycamore HC12 s/n 12898. Originally registered as G-ALTD to Bristol Aeroplane Co on 17/11/50. To RAF 26/03/52. Sold 1985. Cockpit now at Caernarfon Air World Museum.

XG452 Bristol Belvedere HC1 s/n 13347. RAF from 06/60. 06/78 at International Helicopter Museum, Weston-Super-Mare

XR517 Westland Wessex HC2 s/n wa139. First flight 22/01/64. To Ulster Aviation Society 31/03/04 and preserved.

XT642 Westland Scout AH1 s/n f.9648. Built 1966. Army Air Corps. Scrapped 1993

XV726 Westland Wessex HC2 s/n wa 621 First flight 21/03/68. RAF from 08/04/68.

Many thanks, Dan

Hi Brian, Could you add

55-3053 Lockheed T-33A Shooting Star 580-9594 US Air Force at Westchester County Airport

The following are at the National WWII Museum in New Orleans

41-9032 Boeing B-17E c/n 2504 US Army Air Force

42-9309 Douglas C-47 c/n 12970 US Army Air Force

44-29812 North American B-25J Mitchell c/n 108-33087 US Army Air Force

06508 Douglas SBD-3 Dauntless c/n 1245 US Navy

69374 Grumman GM-TBM Avenger c/n 2113 US Navy

BL370 Submarine Spitfire Mark Vb RAF

And at the Smithsonian Air Museum

46-108784 Bell XP-49A c/n 27-10 US Air Force

46-0062 Bell X-1 c/n 1 US Air Force

Also 94-00259 Swearingen C-26 Metro 23 c/n DC-857B US Army

01 Gulfstream C-37A c/n 653 US Coast Guard

Thanks, Greg

Hi Brian,

hope you and yours remain safe and well.

One more identified for you to add please:

CF905....MiG17F...ex Sri Lankan AF....wreck at Sri Lankan AF Museum....delivered 1971, damaged in a landing accident. stored until displayed at the museum.

Thanks

Please add from OTT Horsham, West Sussex, England today: 18-1947 Gulfstream C-37B c/n5592

Hi Brian,

Some more to keep you busy when time allows it. There are a couple of challenges in there for you. It seems on previous post you have a knack being able to solve problems and I'm hoping your expertise will help in these cases.

MM81170 Agusta A109A Mk.II c/n 7305 Italy (Air force/Army)

31 Fouga CM-170 Magister C/N 31

86+12 MBB Bo.105P1M C/N 6012 German Army

SA85 Sud Aviation H-34A (Sikorsky S-58) C/N SA85

1419 Aérospatiale SA-341F Gazelle C/N 1419 French Army

1119 Aérospatiale SA-341F Gazelle C/N 1119 French Army coded ABA

1179 Aérospatiale SA-341F Gazelle C/N 1179 French Army coded ABC

1598 Aérospatiale SA-341F Gazelle C/N 1598 French Army coded ABD

3458 Aérospatiale SA-342M Gazelle C/N 1458 French Army coded ABE

4184 Aerospatiale SA-342M Gazelle C/N 2184 French Army coded ABF

24512 Cessna O-1E Bird Dog C/N 24512 French Army coded AGS

1181 Aerospatiale SE3130 Alouette II c/n 1181 French Army

1425 Aerospatiale SE3130 Alouette II c/n 1425 French Army

I also saw 2 further french army Alouette’s coded BTU and AGE and a Cessna 411 coded /AE but was unable to get the registrations. I know french military aircraft often only display the code prominently with the registration in a more obscure place. I also know they often keep the code for most of their service life possible with 1 change, these sightings were in May 1985. I would have thought there might be some kind of cross reference somewhere online but I have been unable to find anything that helps me match the codes to a registration but I know that you are a genius with stuff like this, any ideas?

F-MJAU Alouette II c/n 1093 Gendarmerie

F-MJAN SA3130 Alouette II c/n 1716 Gendarmerie

1610 Sud SE-3160 Alouette III C/N 1610 (F-ZBDM

10689 Lockheed C-130E Hercules C/N 382-4119 Pakistan Air Force

R212 Transall C-160R c/n 215 French Air Force

CNA-OM Lockheed C-130H Hercules C/N 4875 Royal Moroccan Air Force

145 Dassault Falcon 20GF C/N 145 french Air Force

336 Dassault Mirage IIIR C/N 336 French Air Force

046 Cessna310L c/n 310L-0046 French Air Force

131 Dassault Falcon 20F C/N 131 French Air Force

67 Nord 262A-41 c/n 67 French Air Force

337 Sud Aviation SO.4050A Vautour II N C/N 84

306 Sud Aviation SO.4050A Vautour II N C/N unknown

348 Sud Aviation SO.4050A Vautour II N C/N 116

307 Sud Aviation SO.4050A Vautour II N C/N unknown

NF11-1 Gloster Meteor NF.11 C/N unknown French Air Force

NF14-747 Gloster Meteor NF.14 C/N unknown French Air Force

012 Socata TB-30 Epsilon C/N 12 French Air Force

111 MS760 Paris c/n 111 French Air Force

067 Nord 1101 Noralpha C/N 67

087 Nord 3202 Master C/N 87

170 Max Holste MH-1521M Broussard C/N 170

050 DH Vampire ex French Air Force c/n unknown

20 Nord 3400 Norbarbe C/N 20

37 Nord 3400 Norbarbe C/N 37

87 Nord 3400 Norbarbe C/N 87

121 Nord 3400 Norbarbe C/N 121

I have in my log book KF-471 T-6 Harvard. With the dash in the middle I am guessing this is a code rather than a registration. This was a La Ferte Alais in May 1985, with your extensive knowledge I wonder if you are able to help ID this one. The closest I can find is F-AZBE which I found an online reference stating it was "coded 71" and this a/c was based at La Ferte Alais at this time????

SKY507 SNCA Sud-Est (Sikorsky) H-34A c/n SKY507/SA.8 French Air Force

2101 SA319B Alouette III c/n 2101 french Air Force

2266 Aerospatiale SA-319B Alouette III c/n 2266 French Air Force

2061 Aerospatiale SA-319B Alouette III c/n 2061 French Air Force

2138 Aerospatiale SA-319B Alouette III C/N 2138

103 Nord 262 c/n 103 French Air Force

078 EMB-121AN XINGU c/n 121-078

102 Falcon 20 c/n 102 French Air Force

233 Fouga CM-170R Magister C/N 233 french Air Force

1189 Aérospatiale SA-330B Puma C/N 1189 french Air Force

SKY705 SNCA Sud-Est (Sikorsky) H-34A c/n SKY705/SA.29

139 Nord 1101 Noralpha C/N 139 ex FAF

I think this final one is a bit of a tidy up/correction on the DB. You have listed the following,

107/F-RBHN D-51- c/n 107 French Air Force

68/F-SCCR D-51- c/n 68 French Air Force I think the type has been incorrectly entered as I think it should be a Nord 262D-51 and the Nord 262 has been omitted. In fact if you look under French Air Force on the DB there are 20+ aircraft listed as D-51 so I suspect they are all incorrect

Good luck and thanks in advance for you efforts,

Steve

Hi All,

Been a very busy time for me helping out my friend (funerals are up 100% on last year - no surprise!) so haven't been able to spend much time on the DB and it'll be like that for a few more weeks looking at things.

What little time I have had I spent putting in my log from the 1975 Paris Air Salon, so if any of you were present you should be able to log your sightings (both Mil & Civil - am sure Dennis won't mind my input).

Now to play catch-up with your additions...

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Paul,

Warbirds are added for you (some nice machines!).

Sorry for the delay.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian,

Nice and easy for you today, just the one.

ZM329 Beechcraft Texan T1 RAF c/n PM-127

Thanks

Steve

Hi Alfred,

Your request of 24 May has been completed (at last!) sorry for the delay.

Kind regards, Brian

Hello Brian

Please add the following

16-5883 - C-130J - US Air Force

18-5879 - C-130J - US Air Force

Thank you!

John

Hello Brian, Thanks for my last update. Could you add

Japan JASDF

1. 08-4573 UH-60J Blackhawk JASDF
2. 16-5796 Kawasaki T-4 JASDF
3. 46-5711 Kawasaki T-4 JASDF
4. 17-4500 Kawasaki CH-47J Chinook JASDF
5. 18-1202 Kawasaki RC-2 Technical Research and Development Institute (TRDI) or JASDF? I don't know.
6. 98-1209 Kawasaki C-2 JASDF

Pakistan Air Force

1. 11-130 JF-17
2. 11-134 JF-17
3. 11-135 JF-17

French Air Force

1. 13 PC21
2. 132 Rafale C
3. 133 Rafale C
4. 142 Rafale C
5. 143 Rafale C
6. 144 Rafale C
7. 148 Rafale C
8. 333 Rafale B
9. 343 Rafale B
10. 347 Rafale B

With my best regards Paul

Hi Erdni.

Sorry for the problem with F-ZVMO. Someone had put the info in before me and I never checked it. Looks like they put it in the wrong way around. All corrected now.

All your 'G' s have been added. There are a couple of 'fake' reg's but you'll be able to see them in the DB as I've made it clear.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Dan,

Your 1970's sightings have been added for you. Sorry for the delay..

I've just finished adding my Paris 1975 sightings into the DB if you went to it. I've got Halton, Alconbury, Binbrook, Middle Wallop, & Lakenheath shows to add plus the USS Nimitz in Edinburgh and the USS Independence in Portsmouth...a busy year!

Will keep you posted.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Dan,

Your request of 26 May has been completed - sorry for the delay.

A couple of points to note...the C-47 at the WWII Museum is 42-93096; the XP-59 at the NASM is 42-108784 & the USCG C-37A is in as '001' (due to the 3-digit requirement).

Kindest regards, Brian

HI Dougie,

Managing to stay safe thanks, despite being really busy helping with funerals.

MiG-17 added for you. Sorry for the delay!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Gary,

C-37 added for you - nice catch! I heard it had trailed over but missed it due to work.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Steve,

I've added the Texan for you. Will start on the big list tomorrow.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi John,

Great to hear from another of our US members!

Your two C-130J's have been added although I think there was a typo on the first. I show it as 16-5833 (not 5883). I've put 18-5879 in as well but don't have any delivery info on it yet. If you have anything (or at least let me know your sighting date) that would greatly help.

Many thanks & stay safe,

Kind regards, Brian

My condolences to you and your friends, Brian,

I was hoping you took a well earned rest when you've been absent on the forum for the mighty long time of more than 48 hours but somehow felt that your reasons probably were of a more serious nature. How I hate it to be right.

Almost as much as I thank you for still working on my tiny luxury problems and not asking me to excuse for the delay. This here is just good fun and I hope and know you'll work on the following list only in case of " brain needs distraction ".

Corona gets me into museums because there I expect no less movements than on international airports. Last weekend it was the Technik museum Speyer and there I found a missing frog and a couple of sauerkrauts to start with:

52+04 An-26 10409 ex German Air Force which led me to

52+03 An-26 10407 German Air Force (but not in Speyer)

20+46 F-104G 683-2054

26+63 F-104G 683-7070

UA+112 Gannet AS4 F9394

93+34 Mi-24P 340337

95+06 Mi-14PL B4006 displayed as 637 black

plus (not in Speyer)

45+03 Tornado IDS 510/GS156/4203 German Air Force

French Air Force:

154 2501F Noratlas 154 (Speyer)

191 2501 Noratlas 191 (Toulouse)

201 2501 Noratlas 201 (Toulouse)

504 Breguet 765 Sahara 504 (Toulouse)

003 Breguet 941 3 (Toulouse)

227 MD-312 227 (Toulouse)

Czech Air Force (with the long forgotten C):

0828 L-39ZO 731010 ex Czech Air Force (Speyer)

I guess the letter H will have to wait

Thanks in advance for taking your time,

Erdni

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the Texan. Regarding the larger list I have, amongst others, asked your help in IDing some aircraft from codes. One of those listed is a Cessna 411 coded /AE, I have found a reference in my old 1986 military aircraft markings which suggests a registration of F008 but this doesn't seem consistent with the way most French military registrations work or the numbering on some of the other FAF Cessna 411's although there is one listed in MAM 86 in a similar manner. Good luck.

Steve

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the adds, however, there was no typo...16-5883 is correct see here for reference...

http://www.c-130.net/aircraft-database/C-130/airframe-profile/9538/

as for 18-5879, I saw it on 15-May-2020, more info here....

http://www.c-130.net/aircraft-database/C-130/airframe-profile/9537/

Best, John

Hi Steve,

Thanks for making my Sunday - I hate the French mil numbering system with a passion, lol !

I've finished your list (as best I can). Goes without saying that the 2-digit serials are in as 3-digits with a leading zero.

I also have the following notes:

• The Ce 411 is s/n 8 or 08 (in the db as 008) with c/s F-ZJAE. The c/n is 411-0250F8 so that's probably where the ref to F008 is that you saw?!
• Alouette III 'AGE' is 1664. I can't find any ref to the other one (I'm still trying to tie up 3 that I saw at the Paris Air Salon in 73/75!)
• MS-760 s/n 111 - can't find it serving with the FAF. I saw c/n 111 (I-FINR) at LHR in '76 (I think) but that never saw mil service.
• Vampire '050' is actually TG350 (it did serve as such with the FAF).
• N.262 103 - again can't find this with the FAF/FN. c/n 103 was with the Congolese AF (I saw that at LBG I think) - see TN-230
• Falcon 20 102 - again no joy with the FAF/FN. c/n 102 is in as N403JW.
• KF471 was a Harvard IIB with the RAF. I don't have any records on it so it may have served with the French (several of them did with their UK reg's) and this may be one of them. I can't find anything online regarding it being stored at La Ferte Alais.

Hope this helps, If you can work out the missing bits then just drop me a line and I'll gladly put them in for you.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi John,

Many thanks for the follow-up. The one site I forgot to look at was the C-130.net guys...so I've slapped my wrists and have now put it in the DB for you.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian,

Thanks for adding the latest batch and for helping filling a few gaps for me. As for the others all I can say is I agree with you on the subject of French military serials, they don't make life easy do they. It also looks like I may have had one or two that had been logged incorrectly, it was 35 years ago!

Thanks again for your help and hard work.

Steve.

Hi Erdni,

Thanks for your kind words but I didn't lose anybody (yet). My friend is a Funeral Director (Bestatter) so I'm helping him during this busy time as my own business (wedding cars) is suspended.

I've put all your Museum sightings in the database (you have a couple of "Fake" reg's but you can still access them).

You can send me your 'H' list and I'lll do them when I can.

Kind regards, Brian

Thanks Brian

Good to hear and almost funny, especially when my good friend and host when spotting in the UK is calling the same second I started to read your message just to ask how things are going and if everything is alright in these difficult times? He thought it was funny and by the way: His name is Gavin and he is not your webmaster.

But never laugh to loud before future told you how funny a joke or misunderstanding really was.

Rather go to work:

Back to Speyer because again I made a typo:

98+34 Mi-24P 340337

A correction for the DB from Ailes Anciennes Toulouse:

G-ALWC C-47A 13590 (ex KG723 to make you feel responsible) is there not looking too bad although the DB says scrapped.

Hong Kong Auxiliary Air Force or Gvmt Flying Service:

B-HRL AS332L2 2535

B-HRM AS332L2 2543

B-LVA and B-LVB CL-605s are in the DB reading left fleet but show no further history??

Hungarian Air Force:

030 JAS 39 Gripen ?

042 JAS 39 Gripen ?

Thanks in advance

Hi Brian,

This lot is from Greenham Common air tattoo 1974 and 1976:

VP956 DH 104 Devon C2 s/n 04182 RAF built 1948

XE531 H Hunter T12 s/n 41H/679906 RAE Farnborough built 1956 written off 17/03/82

XF321 H Hunter T7 s/n HABL003082 RAF built 1956 written off 27/07/1984

XG196 H Hunter F6A s/n 41H/680021 RAF built 1956 preserved Mytchett Surrey

XG274 H Hunter F6C s/n 41H/680075 RAF built 1956 now privately owned

XJ686 H Hunter FGA9 s/n 41H/688076 RAF built 1957 to Chile 24/04/82

XJ688 H Hunter FGA9 s/n 41H/688079 RAF built 1957

XK137 H Hunter FGA9 s/n 41H/688139 RAF built 1957 to Chile

XK138 H Hunter FGA9 s/n 41H/688140 RAF built 1957 to Chile

XL444 Avro Vulcan B2 s/n Set47 RAF built 1962 scrapped 12/82

XL583 H Hunter T7 s/n 41H/693733 RAF built 1958 crashed 01/12/81

XP567 Jet Provost T4 s/n PAC/W/15526 RAF built 1961 wfu 30/03/97

XP908 W Scout AH1 s/n F9509 Army Air Corps built 1963 written off 14/08/80

XS109 Gnat T1 s/n FL603 RAF red arrows built 1964

XV334 HS Buccaneer S2B s/n B3-12-66 RAF built 1967 scrapped 10/91

XW614 W Scout AH1 s/n F9742 Army Air Corps crashed 02/12/78

XX396 W Gazelle HT3 s/n 1314 RAF built 1975

XX406 W Gazelle HT3 s/n 1344 RAF built 1975 2002 to G-CBSH

XX519 SA Bulldog T1 s/n BH120/205 RAF built 1973 to N518BD

XX523 SA Bulldog T1 s/n BH120/209 RAF built 1973 to G-BZFM and N523BD

XX528 SA Bulldog T1 s/n BH120/214 Rf built 1973 to G-BZON

XZ133 HS Harrier GR3 s/n 712192 RAF built 1976

Thanks again, Dan

Hi erdni,

Just to let you know that Hungarian Gripen 042 is already in the DB ;)

https://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/Registration/042/948521

Hi Paul,

Your request of 06 June has been completed.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Erdni,

No problem with the typo. I spotted it and put it in as 98+34 anyway.

The rest of your latest list (small amount for 'H' - I was expecting lots from Haiti and Honduras!!) has been added.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Dan,

That brought back a few memories of all those Hunters! One of many of IAT's infamous anniversary line ups.

All added for you. I'm just working on Colerne Museum from my trip on 08.06.75 if you visited around that time. Will let you all know when it's finished.

Kind regards, Brian

Thanks Brian,(and also Erazkiel)

Sorry for the small amount of work yesterday, maybe 'I' can please you a bit more:

Indian Air Force:

An-32

K2684 0209

K2704 0409

K2721 0606

K2742 0808

K3058 1803

K2901 Il-76MD 0073478343

Mi-17

Z3345 ?

Z3373 ?

Z4102 ?

Indonesian Air Force:

Hercules

A-1309 3615

A-1314 4800

A-1321 4925

Iran Air Force

EP-IGC Falcon-900EX 134

Republic of Iraq (full cs)

YI-ASF 737-81Z 40105 (in MUC 02/2020)

Italian Coast Guard:

MM25161 P166DL3 180/129

Italian Air Force:

HH-3F Pelican

MM80985 ?

MM80991 ?

MM80992 ?

MM7006 Tornado-IDS ?

MM51-035 G-64 HU-16A G-110 std CIA

Italian Carabinieri

MM81664 AW109N

MM81225 AB412 ?

Italian State Police ?

PS-67 AB206B3 ?

PS-103 AB212 ?

PS-104 AB212 ?

PS-A97 P-68 Observer ?

PS-B01 P-68 Observer ?

PS-B09 P-68 Observer ?

PS-B14 P-68 Observer ?

Guardia di Finanzia

GdiF-112 NH-500MD ?

Vigili del Fuoco

VF-80 A109E 11202

VF-82 A109E 11226

VF-84 A109 ?

VF-20 Bell 206B 8659

VF-23 Bell 206B 8663

VF-27 Bell 206B 8671

VF-50 Bell 412 25501

VF-54 Bell 412 25545

VF-72 Bell 412EP 25929

Thanks in advance, Erdni

Thanks Brian, even busy, you remain a machine ^^

Let's go back to the US.

F-18

1. 163451
2. 163455
3. 164685
4. 164705
5. 164871
6. 165808
7. 166677
8. 168484
9. 169653
10. 169654

Prowlers

1. 161881
2. 163033
3. 163045

Harrier

1. 164130
2. 165334

Osprey

1. 166725
2. 168305
3. 168615

Many thanks !!!!!!!!

Hi Brian,

Just the one today, the former gate guardian at RAF St Mawgan

WL795 Avro 716 Shackleton AEW.2 C/N unknown RAF

Thanks

Steve

Hi All,

I've just added my sightings from the Colerne Air Museum if any of you got there before it closed in March 1976. My visit was on 08.06.75 and you can find them in the DB by going to the 'Airlines' tab and searching for "Colerne Air Museum" as a 'fleet'.

I'll make a start on your recent requests tomorrow.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian,

Aircraft from the Musee de lAir et de lEspace from 1985

023 Fouga CM-170 Magister C/N 23

026 Fouga CM-170 Magister C/N 26

028 Fouga CM-170 Magister C/N 28

NF11-5 Gloster Meteor NF.11 C/N unknown

02 Dassault Mirage IVA c/n 02

35069 Saab J-35A Draken C/N 35-069

148335 Lockheed P2V-7 Neptune C/N 726-7264

53-0280 Boeing KC-97G Stratocruiser c/n 17062

10 Potez 53 C/N 01

01 Caudron C-714 c/n unknown

1685 Breguet 19GR C/N unknown

N12845 Nieuport Delage NiD-29 C1 c/n 10 online references refer to N 12845 so not sure if this is a US registration or N as in number 12845. It was displayed with the number 10 on fuselage which ties in with the usual French military serials based on c/n

3 HE-162A Salamander c/n unknown (I have this listed as displaying the serial 120223 but the only online references list it as serial number 3??

TB597 Supermarine 361 Spitfire LF.XVIe C/N CBAF.IX.3310

9 Polikarpov I-153 Chaika C/N 7277

6 Dewoitine D.520 C/N 862

4 Yakovlev Yak-3 C/N 2530

7298 Focke Wulf FW-190A-8 c/n unknown

44-20371 Republic P-47D Thunderbolt C/N unknown

01 Leduc 022 c/n 01

01 Leduc 010 c/n 01

01 Dassault Mirage IIIA C/N 01

01 Dassault Mirage III.V C/N 01

01 Dassault Mystere IVA C/N 01

01 Sud-Ouest SO9000 Trident c/n 01

F-ZWWE SNCASE SE-3210 Super Frelon C/N 01

SV+NJ Bucker Bu-181C-3 Bestmann C/N 330844

57 Nord 3202 Master C/N 57

31 Schneider DFS 108-14 SG-38 Schulgleiter C/N 31

43-49194 Douglas C-47A-10-DK skytrain C/N 15010

334 Caudron C.800 c/n unknown

710 Bell 47G C/N 710

Aircraft from the show itself to follow.

Thanks

Steve.

Hi Brian,

As promised some more from the show itself.

23626 Super Galeb G4 c/n 23626 Yugoslav Air Force

25102 Orao J22 c/n 25102 Yugoslav Air Force

4038 Aérospatiale SA-342M Gazelle C/N 2038 French (army/airforce)

245 A365F Dauphin 2 c/n 6168 Irish Air Corp

42 Socata TB-30 Epsilon C/N 42 French Air Force

63 Dassault Super Etendard C/N 77 French Navy

198 Mirage 2000 c/n 198 (at a guess) French Air Force

503 Dassault Mirage F.1B C/N 503 French Air Force

607 Dassault Mirage F.1CR C/N 607 French Air Force

E158 Dassault-Dornier Alpha Jet E C/N E158 French Air Force

ZD578 British Aerospace Sea Harrier FRS.1 C/N 41H-912041/B35/P22 RN

EX-01 FMA AT-63 Pampa C/N 2001 Argentine AIr Force

J-3209 F-5F Swiss Air Force c/n M.1009

83-1158 General Dynamics F-16C Fighting Falcon C/N 5C-41 USAF

MMX596 AMX International AMX C/N A03

MM7044 Panavia Tornado IDS C/N 375/IS043/5053 Italian Air Force

126 Socata TB-30 Epsilon C/N 126 French Air Force

I have list in my log book serials 160 & 76 and the aircraft type is down as G.802 but I am struggling to ID them. The only reference I can find to G.802 as an aircraft type is a light aircraft from around that time but only a handful were built. The serials of 79 & 160 seem to suggest French Military but I can see nothing listed on any online airshow list that links up with this. Were you at the Paris Air Show in ‘85 and if so any ideas?

Thanks as always in advance.

Steve

Hi Erdni,

All your letter I's have been added.

Some of the Polizia a/c carry 'Micky Mouse' numbers and the PS-xx are just codes, others don't and just have the PS-xx reg. I think they're gradually trying to clarify their formats (you can access them all by PS-xx).

The VF-xx Fire & Rescue guys are all codes (the last four of the I- civil reg is carried in very small letters just below the rear tail fin on the helicopters). Again, I've put them in so you can access them via the VF-xx code.

Maybe a small amount for your letter 'J' as Paul (Erazkiel) has already given me a few JASDF machines....but you probably have lots of Jordanian AF F-16's !!

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Paul,

Your latest USN/USMC list has been updated.

You listed 165334 as an AV-8B. It's actually an AH-1W that went under FMS to the RoCN. I can't seem to tie it up to anything like a Harrier. If you can double check and let me know I'll add what it should be!

Kindest regards, Brian

Hi Steve,

Your Shack has been added. I'll make a start on the LBG show list tomorrow afternoon (if I pluck up enough courage!)

kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian, thanks for the update, will load the pics now. You write I miss write the code, it's165354. My bad...

No problems Paul, it's been added for you now.

Kind regards, Brian

Hi Brian,

just a few Lightnings to add please :

XN724 F.2A, c/n 95094

XN728 F.2A, c/n 95105

XN730 F.2A, c/n 95107

XN731 F.2A, c/n 95108

XN732 F.2A, c/n 95109

XN733 F.2A, c/n 95110

XN735 F.2A, c/n 95114

XN776 F.2A, c/n 95129

XN777 F.2A, c/n 95130

XN780 F.2A, c/n 95133

XN782 F.2A, c/n 95135

XN783 F.2A, c/n 95136

XN784 F.2A, c/n 95137

XN788 F.2A, c/n 95141

XN789 F.2A, c/n 95142

XN790 F.2A, c/n 95143

XN792 F.2A, c/n 95145

XN793 F.2A, c/n 95146

XM969 T.4, c/n B1/95054

XM970 T.4, c/n B1/95055

XM973 T.4, c/n B1/95073

Kind regards, Alfred.

Hi Steve,,

The Musee list has now been added. We'll end up with so many "001's" in the database I'm sure it's going to crash!

A couple of notes for you:

• As far as I can tell the NiD 29 is s/n 010 and c/n N.12845 (or N.1284S as I've seen reported in photos).
• He-162A is 120223 (I saw it as such 8/6/79).
• Spitfire "TB597" is actually RR263
• I-153 is listed elsewhere as 9-RED so I've put it in as such
• D.520 '9' is actually 862 (It was wearing '277' when I saw it 8/6/79)
• Yak 3 is listed elsewhere as 4-WHITE so I've put it in as such
• Fw-190 is 730924
• Bu-181 is F-BBNA

I'll start on the show list tomorrow.

Enjoy your weekend, Brian

Hi Brian

Thanks for the info on the variations from my list. Museums are quite fond of fake registrations especially when after a number of years on display they restore the aircraft and choose a new fake reg. You are right about the 001's, given the way French military registrations work and a museum holding many prototypes I suppose it is inevitable that there will be masses of them after all there will always be a first of any type (let just hope most are not French)

Good morning Brian,

Here is a new warbird list for you :)

1. D-FYGJ Yak-3
2. D-IMTT Me 262
3. F-AZHK AD-4N(A) Skyraider
4. F-AZKM OV-10B Bronco
5. F-AZPZ CM-170 Magister
6. G-MXVI Spitfire Mk.XVI
7. HB-RCF Morane-Saulnier D-3801
8. HB-RVF Vampire T.55
9. HB-RVR Hawker Hunter T.68
10. HB-RVU Hawker Hunter Mk.58
11. N133HH CT-133 Silver Star
12. N11FX TAH-1F Cobra (accident 25-MAY-2017 https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/195658)
13. N10VD OV-1D Mohawk (Crashed November 01, 2019 http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2019/11/grumman-ov-1d-mohawk-n10vd-fatal.html)
14. N590D O-2A Skymaster
15. N9079Z TB-25N Mitchell
16. NL51JB P-51D Mustang

An I'm done with my non-created warbirds. Have a nice WE :) Paul

Hi Steve,

Your Paris show list for 1985 has been added. The Mirage 2000 is s/n 312 (with c/n 198) just to confuse you - I'm sure they do it on purpose!!

I wasn't at the show in '85 but I've done some digging on your G.802 and come with the Grinvald G.802 Orion (they also made a G.801). It was one of the first Kit-build aeroplanes and looking at some press releases it sold pretty well until the designer and a journalist were killed in an accident in the prototype G.802 in April 85 (just before the show). That was c/n 1 (no surprise there being a French Build!) but I can't find anything for c/n 76 or 160 in the form of a reg. My database shows G.802 c/n 160 as being delivered 06.85 but no reg is noted. I've scouted around to see if I could find a production list online but only a handful of records and nothing that ties up with your c/ns.

I don't have my BAR/SEAR reports from the '85 show to hand (they're in the attic as I'm still working through the '70s) but they probably wouldn't show it anyway as they were more mil focused (I used to edit SEAR for a few years). You'd be better of trying to see if you can get hold of an Air Britain/LAAS report that focused on the civvie side.

Best of luck!

Regards, Brian

Thanks Brian, I'll carry on digging. Thanks for the update once again.#

Steve

Hi Alfred,

Your lightnings have been added for you.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Kind regards, Brian

HI Paul,

The 2nd part of your warbirds has been added for you (although the first 2 are new-builds!).

Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Kind regards, Brian

Please DO NOT post any more requests to this list. It's now reached over 100 requests and getting too long so I've started a new one (no.5).

Many thanks, Brian